What a bizzare twist to a horrible situation. It indicated that the murderer is also married. So this guy has now ruined even more lives. I feel sad for everyone involved, the victim's husband and both of their families, also the families of the perpetrator If found guilty, Holt will go to prison...and his wife if in JW's will not be free to divorce and remarry, so becomes another casualty in this tragedy. Wonder what made him snap. Leslie
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JW Tragic murder was by JW
by snare&racket inhttp://www.katu.com/news/local/report-holt-heichel-were-members-of-same-church-175169201.html.
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how sad......
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Advise Needed : Should I stay should I go ?
by raymond frantz ina year ago i started looking heavily into "apostate" websites ,now after a year i'm convinced that i have been lied to and kept in the dark for so long .i hate going to the meetings having to cope with these disgusting watchtower articles .unfortunatelly my family are still in wife and kids and i have raised them to be good witnesses .i feel betrayed by the watchtower and i'm sure if it wasn't for these evil men in brooklyn 99% of all witnesses that wake up would not have an issue changing all the wrong doctrines .these satanic men who dare call themselves "anointed " have spend almost 40 years, especially since they changed the baptismal vows and after raymond franz's exit ,creating a "prison of the mind" ,if anyone wants to leave they have to kiss goodbye friends ,family and start all over again .what shall i do stay in and try to work against them or leave?
any advice will be appreciated.
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So sorry that you have to face this choice. Only you can decide what is best in your given circumstances. I guess it depends a lot on how entrenched your wife is in the religion. The above suggestions are good. The last thing you want to do is to start attacking WT. doctrine. By asking questions in a non-confrontational manner you may be able to gauge just where your wife's loyalty will rest if you reveal your feelings about the JW's. Best of luck in your journey. -Leslie-
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Could you live with not talking to your JW family for the rest of your life?
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inone of greatest obstacles to leaving the organization is the destruction of the family unit.
as lady-lee wrote about oompa, i thought of this topic, the society says "this is their way to get wrong doing people to return to the loving arms of jehovah after they repent of their sins" .
i know of men and women who are in good standings and hate their fellow spiritual jw family, i am willing to bet, wager that "jw-hatred" exceeds the worlds hatred, something about a self-assured group versus the "not so self assured' creates one plucked up structure.
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At first it was difficult, almost went back so I could have my adult kids back in my life. I realized that to go back I would have to compromise my principles. I cannot abide hypocrits so there was no way I could return to the JW's once I knew TTATT. I think of my children once in awhile but no longer pine away for them. I figure by staying out (I'm Df'd) at least if they one day wake up they will have someone to reach out to. I have made "real" friends on the outside and do not miss any "conditional" friends that I knew from childhood. Life goes on. -Leslie-
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Please read
by JeffT inmy father passed around 9 this morning.
he'd been in poor health for some time, but it still comes as a shock to have him gone.
we are going to miss him terribly.
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Deepest sympathy Jeff on the passing of your father. What a wonderful legacy to have left for his family. Your father was a very special person. -Leslie-
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Witness Speak: the worst of collection
by grumblecakes inso we all know the jw vocabulary is a weird one.
what words or phrases bugged you the most?.
a few of mine:.
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Cautioning us to be aware of NOT STUMBLING others. Barf, heave. I have taken the liberty of adding a few more possibilities to the list.
BUMBLING (as the GB are bumbling idiots)
FUMBLING (as in fumbling around in the dark doing stuff you shouldn't, wink, wink)
GRUMBLING (not showing appreciation for noo lite)
HUMBLING (when you get re-adjusted in the back room)
MUMBLING (akin to grumbling, when you are caught muttering under your breath about how assinine the material presented was)
TUMBLING ( when they boot you out and you go head over heels with joy at finally being free of all the insanity of JW life)
Leslie
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Are We the Only Life in this vast Galaxy?
by frankiespeakin in.
well i say the same condition for life evolving are relatively repeated over and over again in perhpas billions of solar systems with different combinations of chemical reactions producing all kind of self replicating molecules not just carbon based or dna based.
many stars having a much earlier formation and intelligent life much more before our earth was formed billions of years ago.. .
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Interesting topic. I believe that there is other life out there. To think we are the be-all and end-all is rather arrogant IMHO. If a god created it all it does not seem to make sense for this to be the only planet with life on it. If it got here by a big bang or some other theory of choice, I still don't see how this would negate the possibility of some form of life out there. Just because we haven't discovered it YET, does not mean it doesn't exist. (commence booing and throwing tomatoes now lol) - Leslie -
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Whitney Heichel's body found on Larch Mt., man charged in murder
by trujw invery sad as was said by a poster earlier our shared one time faith makes it seem as if you knew her.
rip.
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What a sad outcome. I feel so bad for the family. It always pains me to see outcomes like this whether or not the person was/is a JW. She was so young. -Leslie-
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I to have a missing but NEVER found family member, very painful indeed! RIP Whitney!
by haboob48 ini am at such a loss for words, i have stared at this screen for about an hour not knowing how to address this.
i feel for the family of this young woman and any way you slice it, closure or no closure, it is the same.
i will however say that the said missing person had just went through a disfellowshipping and divorce, and there was a dispute over property.
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Deepest sympathy to you and your family. Never knowing what happened or where they are must be unbearable at times.
(PS. I sent you a PM. To access, click on the little blue envelope at the top right of the page. If you get an error mssg., click the arrow top left to go back and then re-click on the envelope. Wasn't sure if anybody told you this already so thought I'd share ) -Leslie-
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Got the Job!
by LouBelle ingot it peeps!
they really like me and want me on board.
i'll be receiving the full offer and contract next week.
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That's wonderful news Loubelle, very happy for you. -Leslie-
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Very sad story. I had the same thought run through my mind as pmljohn and Shirley W. If it is a staged escape that would still be better than the alternative. I hope that she is found safe and sound. -Leslie-